Ozzy
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Post by Ozzy on Jul 21, 2015 18:31:34 GMT
I'm trying to figure out if Chelsea is arguing against herself in her opening statement...
Both of her "strategy" moves would have been terrible moves had one thing changed. Had we not decided to switch the vote to Ian last second, Chelsea would have caused the idol to be used correctly and sent Steph home. Also, her telling Sierra about the vote change to me came very close to being a tie vote except for Joaq voting one minute too late.
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Jeff
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Post by Jeff on Jul 21, 2015 18:48:35 GMT
I reckon I'm going to vote for Joaq. I actually think he's a nice guy. I don't like, or have much respect for, the other two. I'm voting with my heart at this point. All three of these people voted me out at some point (fkn Chelsea and Sierra voted me out twice), but Joaq seems to be more genuine in my opinion. And Varner, how genuine was our alliance? Always wondered. Because I had your back man. You were my number one. 100% man. I was shocked at how we came together and I did everything in my power to keep you afloat while also not trying not let others see we were so close, but I didn't do a good job at holding that together since you were a target since you got back in haha But from the moment you handed me that necklace, I was skeptical, but I soon realized you coming back was the best thing for me. At first it was more as a debt to you for keeping your word, but then I felt the loyalty more than I had with anyone in the game and I knew I would be in it with you to the bitter end...planned on it, but obviously Chelsea and Tom's blunder screwed my whole game and got you voted out. I was LIVID. But I couldn't do anything to get them back because I needed them. But letting Tom go was pretty much as big a payback for them voting you out. Could have been Chelsea but he was closer to Matty and had, on multiple occasions done questionable things for me. |
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Jeff
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Post by Jeff on Jul 21, 2015 18:53:57 GMT
Chelsea's strategically moves would have cost her big time without her immunity wins. They weren't good moves, she just couldn't set herself aside for moments at a time to help her true allies. She tried to be friends with everyone in the game and it was a pain to deal with honestly. She's a good person obviously, but those few blunders she made that she is trying to pass off as social ties and strategical moves are the reason I'm actually finding it hard to vote for her. She is showing that as loyalty and a strength...but to WHO?! She put a lot of people in jeopardy multiple times and it just happened to work out for her.
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Jeff
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Post by Jeff on Jul 21, 2015 22:59:30 GMT
So...can I just replace Joaq at this point?
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Post by Stephanie on Jul 22, 2015 0:03:18 GMT
Joaq's statement literally makes me wanna puke. All the times he told me I was his best friend in the game and his closest ally and he talks about only wanting true friends in the end... and he names Sierra and matty. It's shit like that that really pisses me off. I stuck my neck out to keep this inactive ass useless player in the game because I thought we were seriously good friends but he can't even list me as a friend at all. I would say I'll get my revenge on him in all stars but I guess making all stars in the first place will be revenge enough.  |
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Tom
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Post by Tom on Jul 22, 2015 0:32:19 GMT
That's a very good jury statement/question Shane. I am excited to read the answers myself.
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Post by Shane on Jul 22, 2015 1:04:12 GMT
That's a very good jury statement/question Shane. I am excited to read the answers myself. Lol thanks Tom. I'm bitter because none of these people even spoke to me at all. Like if they spoke to me and then blinsided me, I wouldn't be bitter at all. But they just didn't even make an effort at all and now they expect me to want to vote for them. Like that's not how it works! Chelsea did not play nearly as a good a game as she thought she did. I won't be voting for her. I generally don't like Sierra, but I think she will win this game. If she performs well enough in the FTC, she might even get my vote. |
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Tom
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Post by Tom on Jul 22, 2015 1:10:01 GMT
That's a very good jury statement/question Shane. I am excited to read the answers myself. Lol thanks Tom. I'm bitter because none of these people even spoke to me at all. Like if they spoke to me and then blinsided me, I wouldn't be bitter at all. But they just didn't even make an effort at all and now they expect me to want to vote for them. Like that's not how it works! Chelsea did not play nearly as a good a game as she thought she did. I won't be voting for her. I generally don't like Sierra, but I think she will win this game. If she performs well enough in the FTC, she might even get my vote. You have every right to be bitter. I was being genuine when I said I liked the question lol. Sierra's OS is definitely the strongest. Joaq's feels like an attempt to get Sierra more votes and Chelsea's is underwhelming at best. |
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Jeff
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Post by Jeff on Jul 22, 2015 3:29:10 GMT
I hate Joaq's OS. No one forced me to do anything. I did the things I did because I didn't have a choice because of blunders my own allies made. I wasn't influenced by anyone and, if anything, Steph was the only opening presented to me that made me feel like I had a shot to get to the end and of course I took it.
None of these three in the final 3 made many strategically decisions, but Sierra did the most I would think...but without the aid of her out of game relationships, I doubt she sits in the end here. She got lucky with the amount of people she knew.
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Jeff
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Post by Jeff on Jul 22, 2015 3:31:08 GMT
And will these people stop talking about past games and why that helps them here? I don't give two craps how you've done in another series or multiple past games because that should not effect anything about this game and why you deserve to win.
And some of those games they bring up weren't even competitive. So stop.
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Tom
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Post by Tom on Jul 22, 2015 4:12:29 GMT
And will these people stop talking about past games and why that helps them here? I don't give two craps how you've done in another series or multiple past games because that should not effect anything about this game and why you deserve to win. And some of those games they bring up weren't even competitive. So stop. Are you talking about any SPECIFIC game Tyso... errr Varner?  I agree with what you said though FTR. |
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Post by Shane on Jul 22, 2015 4:54:24 GMT
omg I hate how everyone fkn knows each other outside of this. We're playing THIS game. Forget about the past.
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Jeff
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Post by Jeff on Jul 22, 2015 7:21:30 GMT
Yeah, the outside relationships and how that affected people's choices this game really got me to the core. I've played with friends before, but I've seriously never seen it this severe in a game before. It's bizarre. It made my game style (not playing with friends) seem so villainous, but it wasn't...just everyone else played this game alongside their long lost something and refused to betray them.
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Post by Matty on Jul 22, 2015 10:17:14 GMT
Yeah, the outside relationships and how that affected people's choices this game really got me to the core. I've played with friends before, but I've seriously never seen it this severe in a game before. It's bizarre. It made my game style (not playing with friends) seem so villainous, but it wasn't...just everyone else played this game alongside their long lost something and refused to betray them. Ok I'm just going to pop in here from a gift shop in Estonia. First I hope you liked my jury question, worked hard on it. Second and more importantly about the out of game stuff. A LOT of us know who Sierra is at this point. However, if you think she got to where she was solely because of knowing some of us, that's brashly and simply incorrect. I'm really really good friends with her outside of the game and I'm here. Just because you know someone out of the game doesn't mean you are automaticlly going to play with them/for them. Tom and Varner, how did knowing Sierra help you at all? Did you advance her game at any point solely for knowing who she is? I allied with her because I could trust her. That would have happened regardless if I did or did not know her. I don't know all the ins and outs of Joaquin's relationship with Sierra so I can't specify on that, but I feel like Sierra certainly would have voted Joaquin just like she voted for me if it meant she would have a better chance to win. Joaquin, well him not voting Sierra out of course meant he would have a worse chance in the end. But how much better would it have been had you been there still Jeff? If anything, he is getting LESS votes. Shane and Steph both seem to be leaning towards Joaquin now that you are out. Weirdly he may have done what was best for his game. Chelsea doesn't know Sierra that closely (I think) outside of the game, yet they are still close here. She also refused to vote for Sierra during the F4 round. Her too, voting you out was probably best because now she isn't in you shadow. All I'm trying to say is you keep calling out out of game relationships and chalking that up as the reason why Sierra is at the end. I'm sorry but there is no way that's right. She got to the end because of the relationships she built IN THIS GAME. Steph, Chelsea, Joaquin, myself. I'm talking to her regardless of if I know her or not because we are playing the game together. I was voting her if I knew it was in my best interest and she voted me when it was in her best interest. I'm going back to my vacation now. Episode 2 of Rankdown is during All Stars so be ready. |
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Post by Shane on Jul 22, 2015 12:28:21 GMT
Oh my god, can everyone stop telling me that I'm playing a 'character'?! Because I'm actually not. I'm just an asshole. I should just start playing non-alias ORGs
ffs.
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