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Post by Probst on Jul 20, 2015 3:51:53 GMT
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Tom
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Post by Tom on Jul 20, 2015 4:16:37 GMT
Varner
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Post by Shane on Jul 20, 2015 4:19:07 GMT
Fuck this shit. I don't know who to vote for anymore
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Post by Shane on Jul 20, 2015 5:15:45 GMT
None of these people made a connection with me. I don't like any of them. They need to fight for my vote, because it's up in the air
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Jeff
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Post by Jeff on Jul 20, 2015 6:21:57 GMT
What did you think of you time in The Survivor Games: Luanda?
This was definitely a game to remember. So many ups and downs and I'm happy with how everything worked out up until this ending, obviously. Well put together series. Great job!
I am very proud of how I played and, even though this is probably the most nasty I've played in terms of separating emotions and gameplay (and I wasn't even all that nasty as some people seemed to make me), I'm very proud. I think I did myself justice here.
Who among the remaining players do you think will win? Why?
I honestly don't even care. Sierra or Chelsea will win and rightly they should I guess...and so the women winning trend continues. I think they both played extremely emotionally as well as many others which made this game so hard to maneuver through, but I would be content with either winning and I guess I have to be.
Who among the remaining players for you want to win? Why?
Chelsea kind of by default. I understand I hurt Sierra, so the way she reacted was justified I suppose, but I really didn't think she would react that badly after doing what I was doing to her to multiple members of this Jury.
Is there anything you wish you could have done differently in the game?
1. The Shane vote, I wish I would have been more assertive with it, but I couldn't be around and was definitely expecting a 24 hour extension on that round. That round went from me being in complete power to me losing it all simply because two of my allies couldn't be patient and made a very hasty decision. I felt like I had to account for so many people's emotions in this game and relationships that I almost felt like a therapist at times. It is what it is, but I can't force people to do my bidding and if I would have been around to get to Chelsea/Tom before the deadline, this game would likely have a very different ending.
2. Now I obviously wish I wouldn't have tried to get Sierra out, but I was pretty sure she would be winning this thing. I think I could win over the Jury in questioning over Chelsea and Joaq didn't have a chance. I just thought it was my best bet and honestly, if I'm going to go out fourth or lose to Sierra in FTC, I'd much rather have tried something instead of sitting back. But my nice guy side decided to kick in right at the end when it shouldn't have and I couldn't bring myself to vote for Joaq after I told him I wouldn't. I just didn't want to burn anyone unnecessarily, but I felt in my gut I should have voted him...lesson learned! It just wasn't enough time and I was celebrating my dad's birthday that I honestly couldn't be on enough to realize I needed to try and flip Chelsea. She played with her heart and it really ended up costing me.
3. I feel like it was impossible for me to maneuver in this game and I did my absolute best to stay afloat after losing my idol and then losing Shane the round after. But playing that idol was my best play and I kind of wish I took out Matty then instead of Ozzy, but I saw Ozzy as a much more strategical threat and I was trying to stay in the good graces of people. But I would never have been able to get Tom/Chelsea to take out Matty at that point, so I was just trying to take out someone they would target and I felt I needed Steph for later in the game (which I was right).
Did you enjoy The Survivor Games: Luanda?
Sure did, but I was ready for this to be done and I'm glad I don't have to stress anymore.
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Jeff
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Post by Jeff on Jul 20, 2015 6:31:13 GMT
Let me clear some things up:
Tom: the round Shane came back in, I made a deal with him that I would vote him in and if I did, he would come to our tribe and give me the necklace because I didn't feel safe. I voted him in and he kept his deal. When I found out he had the idol and ya'll wanted to vote him out, I wasn't about that, so I kept him in the loop of everything so that he would stay. I wasn't as close to Jamie as Matty and I felt that, even though you and Sierra were closer to Matty than me, that I still had a better bond with Matty than I did with Jamie and you were willing to vote Jamie so off he went. Shane's idea not to play the idol based on what I was telling him and it was brilliant.
Once you and Chelsea took Shane out, it felt like a move against me and it was so idiotic to me I couldn't stand it. Unfortunately, I didn't find the outs for myself and had to stick with ya'll and let Crystal go because Steph wanted Crystal instead. But then I made a deal with Steph which is why I pushed the vote for you a bit so she would know that I was loyal to her.
Ozzy: I'm sorry with how things went down, but I felt like I couldn't trust you. I didn't plan to take you out, but I heard you were rallying people from someone I trusted and you did the same the round we voted Ian out, so I totally could see it. You were a strategic threat and someone people were willing to vote for, so off you went. Wasn't personal, more of a compliment.
Steph: I was so bummed when you got voted out because all my hope in the game officially went away. I knew at that point, then only thing that could save me was immunity or the idol and I got super lucky.
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I had a shot this round because Sierra said she would flip her vote after the tie because she didn't trust that me and Chelsea wouldn't screw her over and vote her out 2-1-1 if she voted Joaq, but I couldn't trust it because Matty told me their plan was to vote me if Chelsea didn't have that idol and I decided to try to take my fate in my own hands and it blew up in my face.
Ya'll, I had a great time and I saw the game from an entirely new perspective. Usually I play with friends and my heart, but I had a huge change this time around. This game had so many trials and every time I felt I had power, I lost it right away due to a mistake someone else made.
Sierra used a lot of outside game relationships to get to where she is and that's what frustrated me the most. Chelsea knew people too and seemed to search them out, but I think she relied less on them, but she didn't have a very strong strategical game. She played with her heart just as much and it was a pain to deal with.
I feel bad saying this stuff, but it's true. I don't know who I will vote for because both played a similar, unappealing game for the most part. Both put a ton of time socially though and did 10x better than me in that regard, but I do wish they each had a bit more to their game strategically. Hoping to hear about it in their questions and answers. Happy for them, but sad it ain't me.
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Tom
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Post by Tom on Jul 20, 2015 8:08:08 GMT
Thanks for that Varner. ESPECIALLY the Shane part in Jamie's vote out. Now I feel like much less of an idiot LOL. I completely agree that the F9 vote is where you, and to an extent I myself, lost the game which was 100% my fault. I wouldn't fault Chelsea for it because I think she may have voted Steph if I was willing to. But Steph and not Sierra so IDK if we would have agreed on a decision there anyways. I do think though that you not being around and us not being able to talk through it was part of why Chelsea and I did end up voting Shane out. And I am sorry about that. It was an emotional round for me and it affected your game immensely.
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Post by Stephanie on Jul 20, 2015 12:15:07 GMT
"once both finalists post opening statements" lol host don't do Joaquin like that
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Post by Shane on Jul 20, 2015 12:15:52 GMT
I think we can all agree that F9 was a big fuck up on everyone's part lol.
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Post by Jamie Newton on Jul 20, 2015 15:13:16 GMT
LOL another female will win this series ??
#femalecurse omg
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Post by Jamie Newton on Jul 20, 2015 15:13:59 GMT
also big tom no hard feelings buddy <3 and steph,matty and varner I was rooting for you guys
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Jeff
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Post by Jeff on Jul 20, 2015 17:10:09 GMT
I think my chances with Sierra in the tonal would have been fine, but I honestly expected so many people to vote based on relationships over gameplay and I already felt I would lose some of my allies votes to Chelsea and I needed to give myself a small edge. Ah well. Thanks for the support!
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Jeff
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Post by Jeff on Jul 20, 2015 17:13:25 GMT
I will say that something that really bugged me about Chelsea's game is things like how she told ya'll a minute before about the Ozzy blindside and nearly cost us all that round because of it. Let the blindsided happen and stop catering to people to win over love and affection. Stuff like that bugs me to the core because you wouldn't tell someone the vote right before votes are cast on the real Survivor because it would change everything...and it nearly did If I had the ability and choice to take her out right after Shane, I would have JUST because she did that.
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Post by Shane on Jul 21, 2015 10:31:06 GMT
I reckon I'm going to vote for Joaq. I actually think he's a nice guy. I don't like, or have much respect for, the other two. I'm voting with my heart at this point. All three of these people voted me out at some point (fkn Chelsea and Sierra voted me out twice), but Joaq seems to be more genuine in my opinion.
And Varner, how genuine was our alliance? Always wondered. Because I had your back man. You were my number one.
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Post by Stephanie on Jul 21, 2015 13:56:34 GMT
These opening statements ain't shit
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