Tom
Jury
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Post by Tom on Jul 22, 2015 1:26:25 GMT
HOWDY! I am gonna cast aside the aliases and address you guys as I know you. Seems fitting imo.
Matt - I will start by saying that I didn't expect this. Granted I didn't talk to "Joaq" in this game much, but I didn't expect it to be you. I have a lot of respect for you for admitting your goat status in this game, which I agree with. Congrats on making FTC and I wish you nothing but the best.
Keri - My heartiest congratulations to you on making it your first FTC after playing a strong and impressive game. I am really happy to see you here and my best wishes to you too.
Dylan - First off my thank you to you for being an amazing friend to me in this game when it got so very emotional for me. I had a fantastic time in the pre-merge when I was with you and I am so incredibly happy to see you here.
As for my question to you guys, I think jury management is one of the more difficult things to master in this game. I did a terrible job myself at it in this game so I want to see how you think you did. Its very open ended and there really isn't a right or wrong answer. PM me who you think you burned as a juror and how badly when you voted them out/watched them get voted out and who you think you managed well enough that they are rooting for you right now. Also please rate yourself out of 10 how well you think you did at jury management. To make it easier, or harder depending on your perspective, I will ask you not to include me. But every other juror has to be included. Once I have all three answers, I will post them here for the jurors to see.
Good luck to all three of you.
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Sierra
Sole Survivor
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Post by Sierra on Jul 22, 2015 15:00:06 GMT
I was 76% of the way through answering this and then my iPad died sooooooooooooooooo I'm gonna do it tomorrow because I need SLEEP
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Post by Joaquin on Jul 25, 2015 5:23:09 GMT
Answer being PMed now.
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Tom
Jury
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Post by Tom on Jul 25, 2015 8:12:10 GMT
Here are the answers from all three finalists:Im going to classify people into groupings
Group 1: "My biggest supporters"
(Tom) Jeff
These people were my allies and knew how I was voting. Tom knew I was writing his name down and he knows why I had to do it. (He even told me to do it). Varner - only gave me a minute to change my vote. Did a hail mary pass to try and force a tie. I would have ended up at least tying it either way (preferably on JOAQ) but needed more time. Varner wanted himself to win, but if he couldn't, then me.
I do not feel like either feel burned. They were my biggest allies in this game.
Group 2: "Ally"
Crystal
I had worked closely with Crystal but I did lie to her about the Shane vote and voted her out without her knowledge. We were good allies for the majority of the game and exchanged information. I told her a lot about my boy problems. When she told Ian about the Joaquin vote, I felt that she didn't necessarily always have my best intentions. Which led to me be guarded around her. I still really wanted to work with her and get far together, but she disappeared and didn't read one of my PMs. I wish she would have been around more in her last few rounds. Things could have been different.
She could have reason to hold a grudge but I don't think she is.
Group 3: "The we have reasons to not want Sierra to win"
Cirie Kimmi
Sierra had a major blow up with these girls. There were attacks and accusations and a lot of drama that I'm glad I was not apart of.
I never got to know them in this game setting and I do not have a personal connection with them. (I know Cirie outside of the game, but Chelsea/Cirie were never involved inside the game) I think they will vote for me.
Group 4: "May be burned"
Stephanie
She and I tried to be allies. She had Ozzy. I had Varner.
We played in Starz together where I burned her greatly. She didn't get too attached to me this season because of it. We tried. But we just always had better connections else where and couldn't risk a repeat of Starz.
While I didn't hurt her as much as Sierra did. I still think she was slightly mad at me for her departure. I knew Matty/Sierra/Stephanie/Joaq were tight and I needed one of them to leave.
Group 5: "Not burned, but more loyal to Sierra"
Matty Jamie
Both of these people are Sierra's allies. While I did not piss either off because they knew I was voting for them and they most likely were leaving, they still were better friends/allies with Sierra and I do not expect their votes. Matty will most likely vote Sierra. Jamie probably leans towards Sierra.
But if I win, I do not think either will be mad. Sure, they'd prefer Sierra to win, but neither hate me.
Group 6: "The most burned"
Ozzy Shane
I voted both of these people out in blindsides. Twice. Ozzy was a double blindside. Shane had at least one blindside. Although, I think he expected the 2nd one a little.
I think I repaired my relationship with Ozzy after his first blindside. Because I legitimately wanted to keep him around in case the Steph/Ozzy/Chelsea/Varner thing would happen. But his 2nd blindside maximized damage to the opposing side and maximized potential future relations in the future. (I think Joaq could have maximized both ends more, but people didn't see the need/want to get him out because he wasn't 'worth' the blindside) Obviously, his 2nd blindside has not been repaired and he probably has a bitter feeling -rightfully so.
Shane. Also feels betrayed and I stayed distant from him on his second return. I knew that our relationship could not be healed and I knew Tom/Jeff would keep me in the loop. I know Shane was after me and Sierra. So, I felt like I couldn't be fake with him. If he wanted me out, then I would try to get him out first. Thus, I don't think he particularly wants me to win.
OVERALL JURY MANAGEMENT: 8.5
Why I chose this number: If I win, I think at least 8 people (out of 10 member jury) will be happy/okay with this outcome. Also, Shane has reason to not want Sierra nor I to win, but most likely one of us will win.
Kimmi
How well did I jury manage this person? Admittedly probably pretty poorly, but I think it was kind of unavoidable given the circumstances. Kimmi's elimination was a necessary blindside, so I couldn't give her warning or even hint that I knew what was going to happen. I have since tried on multiple occasions to explain what went down during her boot round, but I don't know if she believes me, or if my justification is enough to satisfy her. Do I think this person is rooting for me? I wouldn't think so. It's probably more a question of whether she's actively rooting against me or not. I could be wrong, though. CirieHow well did I jury manage this person? Cirie and I were never on the same side in this game. She made a point of lying to me every time we talked game, so I eventually began to return the favour, though I did try to make sure she knew that I still saw her as an option. She obviously wasn't keen, however. I don't think this was ever going to be salvageable, especially considering her spiel against me on her way out. Do I think this person is rooting for me? Nope. JamieHow well did I jury manage this person? Jamie and I had a great relationship on nuBarra and I'd like to think this would have continued had we been reunited at the official merge. Do I think this person is rooting for me? I hope so! OzzyHow well did I jury manage this person? Ozzy and I had an awesome couple of rounds together before his untimely demise. We got along pretty great and had similar visions re: where we wanted the game to go. Do I think this person is rooting for me? I'm not sure. We didn't have much time to bond, so I suspect his vote is probably up in the air, despite how well we vibed. ShaneHow well did I jury manage this person? I kind of addressed this in Shane's thread, but we didn't have much of a relationship. In that sense, my management of him could have been a lot better, but attempting to work with him wasn't practical for my game. I did, however, make a point of letting him know when I thought he was going home post-merge because I thought he deserved to know, even though I turned out to be wrong, so that's something. Do I think this person is rooting for me? It wouldn't seem that way, but I think I might have a shot at getting his vote. CrystalHow well did I jury manage this person? Crystal and I had pretty much no relationship. I don't have much else to say. Do I think this person is rooting for me? I doubt it. She has no personal reason to, which plays a big part. StephHow well did I jury manage this person? I kind of goofed majorly. It was probably the worst incidence of jury mismanagement that I have ever personally been involved in. There were a lot of things I could have done better in Steph's boot round, but I was too much of an emotional mess. The fact that it was a live round certainly didn't help. Do I think this person is rooting for me? Who knows MattyHow well did I jury manage this person? Matty and I discussed every facet of the game at length. His boot was no exception. I think we're good. Do I think this person is rooting for me? I think so! VarnerHow well did I jury manage this person? Like, honestly, it probably could have been better, but I was really upset with him towards the end. I fully intended on sticking to the deal I made with him that would have put him, Chelsea and I in the Final 3, but he seemed hell bent on eliminating me and essentially ended up booting himself. I kind of flipped out on him when I found out he was trying to turn the F4 vote against me, which probably wasn't the best thing to do, but I honestly don't think it mattered either way. Do I think this person is rooting for me? I don't think so. I got the impression that by F4 he was playing for himself OR Chelsea to win, so while I don't want to get ahead of myself, I'm pretty sure his vote is locked on Chelsea. People I think I actively burned to some degree: Steph, Cirie, Kimmi (but I think at least two of these are "fixable") People I think are (maybe) rooting for me: Ozzy, Matty, Jamie Overall jury management score (excluding you): 7/10 Jurors I feel like I burned: Cirie, Crystal, Varner, Shane Jurors I feel like I managed well: Kimmi, Ozzy, Matty, Steph, Jamie (never was on a tribe with him) 1. Matty- We were very very close and I liked him a lot. I wouldn’t have voted against him if it wasn’t my only option and he knows it was he or I so I think I managed him well. He knew where my head was at that round and that I didn’t want him to go. 2. Kimmi- I was close with her in the early game when we were on a tribe and we had a bunch of great talks. I probably would’ve stayed loyal to her if we were together again. I liked her a lot and I think I bonded with her so I felt like she was managed the best especially since I had no part in her voteoff. 3. Ozzy- I had no part in his voteoff even though I was unable to switch my vote in time. I felt like we bonded a bit when we were in our alliance and before that and had a bunch of talks about our lives. I was loyal to him until the end. 4. Jamie- We were never on a tribe so we were never allowed to talk. I wasn’t involved in him going. There’s really no way I could’ve managed him well or poorly but I know from what I’ve heard that he’s an awesome guy. 5. Steph- This is a tossup but I feel like based on what she said after the vote that she respected the move. I tried to handle this as well as possible and make sure she knew where my head was at as to why I did it. I messed up a few times by not clarifying what I meant when I said playing to help friends but I always saw her as a friend and felt very strongly about her. I feel like of all the people I backstabbed she would respect the move the most and understand why I was doing what I was. 6. Shane- I lied to him the round he went but I felt like he was trying to trick me and was still close to Tom. I could’ve talked to him more though not much more since we were only together for two rounds and I feel that based on his jury question he respected the move I made. I only lied to him to make sure he didn’t expect it but was as respectful as I could be. 7. Crystal- I backstabbed her the round that Cirie went and voted against how she wanted to, lying to her because I said that I would vote against Sierra. I felt extremely close to her earlier on and liked her a lot but there was little I could do to mend things and offered to watch her back to avoid getting a target only to vote her out next round. It was a unanimous vote and there was little I could do but I still think I lied to her too much even though I was close to her. 8. Cirie- I lied to her and told her that I was with her, only to vote against her and with a person she had a public blowup with earlier on. I never talked to her much because neither of us were around a lot so with no real connection and having lied to her, I feel like I burned her. 9. Varner- I feel like I burned him the most but he was also the person I was closest to outside of Sierra, Steph, and Matty. I lied to him a lot last round to ensure that he wouldn’t vote against me. I felt awful about it because, whether this is seen as BS or whatever I don’t really care, I liked him a lot and would’ve liked to come here with him but I was just closer with Sierra. I lied to him so that he would still vote for Sierra, Chelsea would vote for me, and he would go. It was a strategic move that I hope he can respect and we did bond personally but I feel like I betrayed him hardcore and he may not totally forgive me so I think I burned him the most. I think I burned 3 jury members really badly and handled the rest pretty well. There was little I could do about two of them but I still could’ve handled things better. All things considered, I would probably give myself a 7 for jury management because I bonded personally with many of the jurors and tried to avoid lying to the as much as possible, doing only what was necessary for the game. At the very least, if I couldn’t talk to them, I wasn’t involved in them going and handled everyone respectfully. So 7 out of 10. My thanks to all three finalists. It was interesting for me to read these and it has made my decision a bit harder. Good luck to all three of you and congratulations on making it to FTC.
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