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Post by Austin on Jun 23, 2015 0:32:36 GMT
It'd be nice if someone switched a vote and Cirie/Amber both stayed, but hey. As for that whole TC argument...I wouldn't touch that with a Boston-sized pole.
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Post by Fabio on Jun 23, 2015 1:50:04 GMT
This game is getting so personal and shitty. :/
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Post by Carter on Jun 23, 2015 1:53:00 GMT
John doesn't know Sierra or Matty. Matty and Sierra are close, they're both my cohosts and I feel like they've 100% figured that out already. Sorry for not being around guys...
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Post by Carter on Jun 23, 2015 1:54:04 GMT
ok nvm maybe they do know john ...
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Mary
Junior Member
The twice and future Queen
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Post by Mary on Jun 23, 2015 2:35:02 GMT
This game is getting so personal and shitty. :/ Yeah. As much as I get where Amber's coming from, she's being way too nasty with the personal comments. That being said, I think in her defense posts Sierra's either lying or is hiding behind the semantics of what constitutes a "Pregame" alliance. I think a lot of people have it in their heads that a pregame specifically only refers to joining a game with the express purpose of working with Person X, but I think it's a bit more than that. Several members of the Pure cast mentioned that Sierra deliberately broke alias (which was against the rules there) in an attempt to get them to work with her. In my opinion, that's still a form of pregaming, because it's using your previous friendships with people to get ahead, and it's likely that those friendships are influencing the game to change in ways that wouldn't have come about "organically", if that makes sense. However, in this game, I don't see it as that big of an issue because the rules don't say that you're obligated to remain alias. If people choose to pregame, there's nothing saying they couldn't, or even shouldn't, do that. If people choose to work with their friends, there's no reason they shouldn't. It's also worth pointing out that I'm incredibly guilty of having pregamed on every single level imaginable in past games, so please don't think I'm moralizing and saying that pregaming is evil and pregamers suck. I personally feel kind of ashamed whenever I do pregame, and I feel much prouder of the games where I don't resort to that, but I'm not going to pretend that it's categorically wrong, or that I'm some patron saint of ORG morality up in hurr.
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Post by Tyson on Jun 23, 2015 2:52:29 GMT
Ya amber's post was bitter but then sierra's post about getting outplayed was nauseating. If outplaying is knowing the right person outside the game then I don't think it's really survivor.
It's one thing to use outside relationships to your advantage, but to do so and pretend you are some sort of strategic genius is just pathetic.
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Post by Tyson on Jun 23, 2015 2:55:51 GMT
Surely though this will wake Jamie/Tom up to being weary of how far they go with those three
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Post by Tyson on Jun 23, 2015 2:58:36 GMT
Ya my post is pretty hypocritical as well. I try my very best to avoid it (Unless it is an AS game), but you find people out and that influences your decisions. I try not to reveal who I am though, and don't really pre game.
It's more so as a host than a player that it bothers me because it has a chance of ruining games that way.
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Post by Austin on Jun 23, 2015 5:06:28 GMT
This game is getting so personal and shitty. :/ Yeah. As much as I get where Amber's coming from, she's being way too nasty with the personal comments. That being said, I think in her defense posts Sierra's either lying or is hiding behind the semantics of what constitutes a "Pregame" alliance. I think a lot of people have it in their heads that a pregame specifically only refers to joining a game with the express purpose of working with Person X, but I think it's a bit more than that. Several members of the Pure cast mentioned that Sierra deliberately broke alias (which was against the rules there) in an attempt to get them to work with her. In my opinion, that's still a form of pregaming, because it's using your previous friendships with people to get ahead, and it's likely that those friendships are influencing the game to change in ways that wouldn't have come about "organically", if that makes sense. However, in this game, I don't see it as that big of an issue because the rules don't say that you're obligated to remain alias. If people choose to pregame, there's nothing saying they couldn't, or even shouldn't, do that. If people choose to work with their friends, there's no reason they shouldn't. It's also worth pointing out that I'm incredibly guilty of having pregamed on every single level imaginable in past games, so please don't think I'm moralizing and saying that pregaming is evil and pregamers suck. I personally feel kind of ashamed whenever I do pregame, and I feel much prouder of the games where I don't resort to that, but I'm not going to pretend that it's categorically wrong, or that I'm some patron saint of ORG morality up in hurr. Yeah, you certainly have a point that people have different takes on what constitutes a pre-game. Like, to me if you're playing a game with someone and you happen to figure out who each other are on your own, that doesn't count as a pre-game since neither of you knew the other was playing. Sometimes people do get in their heads the idea that it's impossible for 2 people who know each other to have differing agendas when playing though. I really can't comment on the whole Pure situation, but to try and play the other side of the fence, I can sort of understand people saying "I want to win, and I want to use whatever 'tools' I have available to do it" and thinking that if they have the means of using that to help them win but don't, that they'd be an idiot for that. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with either side since I can understand a little bit on both cases in where they're coming from.
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Post by Brandon on Jun 23, 2015 6:01:08 GMT
Mary, it's just you I think. I'd also love to have your babies, as long as we can name one of them Giuseppe.
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Post by Brandon on Jun 23, 2015 6:05:24 GMT
This game is getting so personal and shitty. :/ Yeah. As much as I get where Amber's coming from, she's being way too nasty with the personal comments. That being said, I think in her defense posts Sierra's either lying or is hiding behind the semantics of what constitutes a "Pregame" alliance. I think a lot of people have it in their heads that a pregame specifically only refers to joining a game with the express purpose of working with Person X, but I think it's a bit more than that. Several members of the Pure cast mentioned that Sierra deliberately broke alias (which was against the rules there) in an attempt to get them to work with her. In my opinion, that's still a form of pregaming, because it's using your previous friendships with people to get ahead, and it's likely that those friendships are influencing the game to change in ways that wouldn't have come about "organically", if that makes sense. However, in this game, I don't see it as that big of an issue because the rules don't say that you're obligated to remain alias. If people choose to pregame, there's nothing saying they couldn't, or even shouldn't, do that. If people choose to work with their friends, there's no reason they shouldn't. It's also worth pointing out that I'm incredibly guilty of having pregamed on every single level imaginable in past games, so please don't think I'm moralizing and saying that pregaming is evil and pregamers suck. I personally feel kind of ashamed whenever I do pregame, and I feel much prouder of the games where I don't resort to that, but I'm not going to pretend that it's categorically wrong, or that I'm some patron saint of ORG morality up in hurr. Preach. I've totally pre-gamed before, especially when it just so happens you find a friend in the cast (Fabio ily bae <3), and I don't mind it in TSG because this isn't a strict alias game.
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Post by Tyson on Jun 23, 2015 12:55:42 GMT
Amber's exit reminded me of Lindsey. That girl was a mess
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